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From 2013-10-22 to 2013-11-04
2013-11-04
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23:22 Feature #1636: Support for Oculus Rift
- Thanks for the detailed explanation of which values can/should be obtained from the SDK. The fact that an effective F...
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23:19 Feature #1636: Support for Oculus Rift
- skyjake wrote:
> > offscreen render buffers
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> I've got [offscreen render buffers] mostly working.
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- danij wrote:
> If the FOV provided from the Oculus SDK is not treated as an absolute then of what benefit is there t... -
20:51 Feature #1636: Support for Oculus Rift
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I've got this mostly working. The situation in the oculus-rift branch is that I've hard... -
- skyjake wrote:
> danij wrote:
> > Are we saying that VR is so exceptional that by default we shouldn't honour the F... -
- danij wrote:
> Are we saying that VR is so exceptional that by default we shouldn't honour the FOV of the original g... -
- I agree with the intention. However I disagree with the method. Field-of-view in a cinematic sense is a matter of art...
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- danij wrote:
> Why should we allow the Rift SDK to override the field-of-view?
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- cmbruns wrote:
> Speaking of field-of-view, I'm currently setting the field-of-view to 110 degrees when the player a... -
- danij wrote:
> I suspect the reason this is so jarring in the Rift is because the change from fullscreen viewport to... -
- skyjake wrote:
> > offscreen render buffers
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> I agree this would be useful...
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- > offscreen render buffers
I agree this would be useful. After taking a closer look I concluded that the only reas...
2013-11-03
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- cmbruns wrote:
> > Furthermore, I don't see why the window border can't work in Rift mode in the same way it usually... -
- > Indeed we do have a philosophical difference here.
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- cmbruns wrote:
> danij wrote:
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- I created a brief video of Rift gameplay
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- By the way, the size of the off-screen HUD buffer for Rift mode would be 512x384 -256x192- (i.e. -really- small). The...
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- Potential uses of offscreen render buffers:
* Rift warping like we already have.
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- skyjake wrote:
> cmbruns wrote:
> > The taskbar cannot be seen at all. I press apostrophe and type what I imagine t... -
- danij wrote:
> cmbruns wrote:
> > * When the player activates/deactivates the status HUD (+/- keys), the OpenGL vie... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> The taskbar cannot be seen at all. I press apostrophe and type what I imagine to be in the taskbar ... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> * When the player activates/deactivates the status HUD (+/- keys), the OpenGL viewport for 3D viewi... -
- As of today, 3D gameplay is playable and working well enough in the Rift. This is excellent. I can't wait to try this...
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11:25 Feature #1649: Option to disable HUD/menu font upscaling
- Indeed, there is a smoothing/up scaling filter applied to all fonts in Dday (UI and gameworld), that as far as I am a...
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- For me the "rend-tex-filter-ui" cvar (also in the appearance editor) affects both the menu and HUD fonts: bilinear fi...
2013-11-02
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- skyjake wrote:
> [non-interpolated yaw]
I'm currently interrogating @viewData->latest.angle@ (instead of @viewData-... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> Head tracking is really smooth. Almost perfect in fact. I don't think I have seen any better. This ... -
- It turns out a lot of the jerkiness I was seeing was due to mirroring the Rift display on another monitor.
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- skyjake wrote:
> When it comes to minimizing latency, how is vsync treated? Should it be disabled?
I've read that v... -
- skyjake wrote:
> bindcontrol lookpitch head-pitch
OK. I got pitch working; and yes, it is jerky. Hopefully late sch... -
- skyjake wrote:
> With "yawhead" and "yawbody", 1.0 means 180 degrees.
So I'll assume that if roll ever gets used, 1... -
- The subject speaks for it'self. There is no cvar or menu option to disable the font filter applied to menu and hud te...
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- Dday makes a handful of mobj state changes, all making things full bright that weren’t in the original games. For vis...
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- May I point to the possible cause of this issue; number 1 in the list of Zclipping issues I posted here: #1129
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- This is an umbrella issue for tasks related to features/bugs that allow Doomsday to look and behave exactly like vani...
2013-11-01
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- skyjake wrote:
> If you want to shoot where the camera is pointing at, you need to use yawbody.
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- cmbruns wrote:
> So I should be using yawhead while implementing view-to-aim, right?
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- skyjake wrote:
>The "yawhead" instead turns the camera viewpoint while keeping gun direction the same in world coord... -
- A further note about "lookpitch". If the control's position is 1.0, it means the player's actual look pitch is 85 deg...
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- cmbruns wrote:
> I started adding Pitch control. Even if I set @ev.axis.type = EAXIS_ABSOLUTE@ in @DD_ReadHeadTracke... -
- skyjake wrote:
> I have now added some new player controls and implemented them (roughly) on game-side. Check the co... -
- Scheduling this for 1.13. Anything that cannot make it in time for a mid-December release should be pushed to a conti...
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- Unscheduling for now, since preferably some form of game rules would be needed for a good fix.
2013-10-31
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- There seems to be a fair degree of feature overlap with the in-game help presented via the console. Maybe we can bind...
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- To do this the right way, all the command line options should be documented using Amethyst much like console commands...
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- I have now added some new player controls and implemented them (roughly) on game-side. Check the commit notes for det...
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- cmbruns wrote:
> [...remaining tasks...]
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- To be able to adjust the hud item placement in Rift mode, it might be useful to be able to independently adjust the s...
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- FS1 acts as an extension layer over the native file system, allowing one to look up resources and locate other needed...
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- Continuing the work started in #1636, Doomsday's stereoscopic 3D capabilities could be further enhanced with:
* Ocul...
2013-10-30
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- _(merged with previous comment)_
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- danij wrote:
> So as to better my understanding of this - is this approximately what your implementation is doing?
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- Nice work. At least for cross-eye viewing your screenshot is converging well for me.
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- skyjake wrote:
> I can help debug it if you commit the @GLTarget@-using version to GitHub.
With your help, I got wa...
2013-10-29
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- vermil wrote:
> I see. In the past, I've interpreted 'ignore' as literally that :)
You're right, it can be misund... -
- I see. In the past, I've interpreted 'ignore' as literally that :)
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- I hear you, and agree that this should be fixed in the name of emulation correctness when it comes to the Hexen beta ...
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- If the sprite for crushed mobjs was in the beta version Iwad and if Heretic hadn't removed the feature from Doom (rem...
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- I'm lowering the priority to our lowest rating because:
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- The ability to edit ones posts appears to work :)
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- vermil wrote:
> Right, time to clean up all my rambling above; it's cases like this that I wish users could edit and... -
- Right, time to clean up all my rambling above; it's cases like this that I wish users could edit and/or delete their ...
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- Also, the contents of the autocompletion popup are not always up to date. Most likely a bug with the popup reshowing ...
2013-10-28
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- But what about non FMOD plugins?
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- Ok, test using original Wolf3D sounds appears to show the original issue is fixed; though the volume of them seemed a...
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- My apologies; ignore the assertion that the original issue was fixed; I used the wrong sounds to test. I have to rip ...
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- By FMOD fixing the issue, I mean, the sounds are no longer replaced with distortion.
Maybe not entirely related, b... -
- I have now noticed that I was asked to test this about a year ago. My apologies for missing this until now.
FMOD d... -
- Not the most technical subject heading.
In the HeXen beta demo, mobj corpses crushed by a crusher aren't turned in... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> RE: Latency
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- skyjake wrote:
> ...So in @clientwindow.cpp@ or other client sources, one shouldn't use the public API (@Con_Get*@) ... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> skyjake wrote:
>> Naturally, on game-side, the VR variables have to accessed via the Con_Get*() fu... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> I'm struggling with the warping.
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- I'm not familiar with that area of the codebase but I expect this is because glprogram.cpp resides in libgui and ther...
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- I'm struggling with the warping.
I'm trying to paint to an offscreen buffer and then just paint it back on the scree...
2013-10-27
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- skyjake wrote:
> Yes, @GLTarget@ and @GLTexture@ should be used here. The only potential issue is that I haven't yet... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> I notice there are some classes like GLTarget and GLTexture that would appear to wrap the functiona... -
- danij wrote:
> Skyjake is better placed to advise on such matters as he has only recently implemented those componen... -
- Integrating head tracking via the existing binding system is definitely the better approach, regardless of optimal la...
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- Shifting gears for a moment...
To do the oculus rift warping, I need to do the following:
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- cmbruns wrote:
> Is it possible for a noob like myself to add a new virtual input device? Or is that something you g... -
- skyjake wrote:
> With the current input system and renderer we should be able to (quite easily) handle 35 Hz input o... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> For clarity, let's get quantitative here. I was being a bit hyperbolic when I said that every milli... -
- danij wrote:
> Hacking it in would inherently mean that player movement lags behind the refresh update. While it wou... -
- Hacking it in would inherently mean that player movement lags behind the refresh update. While it would certainly be ...
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- danij wrote:
> Indeed I would agree that implementing the roll angle tracking and then moving on to geometry warping... -
- If the input from the head tracker effects the angle at which the player moves then this fundamentally requires an in...
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- skyjake wrote:
> @DENG_USE_OCULUS_RIFT@
Got it. Will do.
> Naturally, on game-side, the VR variables have to acc... -
- I rather see this from the perspective that the lack of zero-latency input is a serious bug.
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- danij wrote:
> It seems to me that to fully integrate the Oculus head tracking it must be folded into the binding sy... -
- It seems to me that to fully integrate the Oculus head tracking it must be folded into the binding system in a simila...
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- cmbruns wrote:
>>I will need to link to the Oculus SDK. This should be a totally optional build option.
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- Commit commit:c7debe3 should address the missing icon in Add/Remove Programs/Control Panel. It appears that Inno Setu...
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- I'm not sure this can be entirely fixed. Particularly the icon appearing in the Add/Remove Programs dialog is most li...
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- Doomsday's Windows installer is currently based on Inno Setup. However, "WiX Toolset":http://wixtoolset.org would ena...
2013-10-26
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- danij wrote:
> Re: UI and HUD drawing
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> It would be useful for future development/maintenance to have a visual ... -
- Re: UI and HUD drawing
It would be useful for future development/maintenance to have a visual representation of th... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> The Roll angle has no gameplay effect...
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- cmbruns wrote:
> To implement head tracking, I will need to link to the Oculus SDK. This should be a totally optiona... -
- I have added a number of different stereo 3D modes, and lightly tested most of them. Basic stereoscopic functionality...
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- skyjake wrote:
> cmbruns wrote:
> > Are your changes committed to your github oculus-rift or master branch? I'd lik... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> Are your changes committed to your github oculus-rift or master branch? I'd like to stay in sync, a... -
- skyjake wrote:
> Nicely done. I pulled your changes and applied some fine-tuning: the mouse coordinate mapping is on... -
- BTW, don't worry too much about conforming to our coding/naming conventions. When we're done, I'll update/rename cvar...
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- cmbruns wrote:
> Using skyjake's awesome side-by-side composition as a starting point, I created 3 stereoscopic mode... -
- One more thing: In my haste, I hard-coded the player point-of-view height to 41.0 map units above the floor. Where sh...
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- I finally got the build environment working. First on the command line, then in Qt Creator.
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- I cannot reproduce this. Perhaps there is an issue with bindings? Try:...
2013-10-25
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- skyjake wrote:
> cmbruns wrote:
> > For Oculus Rift and cross-eyed viewing, the aspect ratio would need to be corre... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> For Oculus Rift and cross-eyed viewing, the aspect ratio would need to be corrected back to normal ... -
- Monster behavior does fit very well into the game rules concept.
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- Perhaps an integrated mechanism using DED 2.0 selectors and Game Rules?
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- I'm wrote the above to suggest that Dday may actually already have the code largely ready to fix ths issue, in Hereti...
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- The Nightmare stuff not saved in save games, seems to be the same stuff that the BFG Edition is missing entirely.
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2013-10-24
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- skyjake wrote:
> The downside with the current renderer is that it will not be very efficient to render the same fra... -
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- The branch "oculus-rift" is now on GitHub. I've made some initial changes: I've verified that the entire UI can be dr...
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- cmbruns wrote:
> Would you mind thinking about how such a composition of views might work within your current archit... -
- List of higher-level tasks needed for Oculus rift mode:
* Stereoscopic 3D (in any form)
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- I brought up side-by-side scene composition in my previous comment because it is a tricky topic and deserves some cog...
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- skyjake wrote:
> cmbruns wrote:
> > I just implemented an Oculus Rift mode for gzdoom http://rotatingpenguin.com/gz... -
- cmbruns wrote:
> I just implemented an Oculus Rift mode for gzdoom http://rotatingpenguin.com/gz3doom/.
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- Refocusing this issue to be about scriptability of Doomsday's UI framework. The game menus are a separate (sub)topic ...
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- Profiling shows one of the heaviest elements in the map renderer is lookups via GridMap.
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- The Shell needs an easier way to pick basic game options such as which map to play, deathmatch/coop mode, and other M...
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2013-10-23
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- skyjake wrote:
> Oculus Rift is cool and we should have support for it in the renderer.
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> However, having dabbl... -
- Oculus Rift is cool and we should have support for it in the renderer.
However, having dabbled with stereo 3D, the... -
- We should switch to using Qt 5 when it is stable and full-featured enough for our needs.
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- Thanks for the correction.
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- Pardon me for interfering, but I am wondering, if Skyjake is misinterpreting the issue here:
In Vanilla Heretic an... -
- In the above situation InFine would opaquely generate a new material variant specific to the context/scope of the scr...
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- I see. From an external point of view (let say in the InFine implementation), one shouldn't have to worry about this ...
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- Ah, yeah. In that case it sounds like he wants a per-surface material scaling factor (XG 2.0?)
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- tolwyn wrote:
> in a def file per sector number
That sounds like a different thing altogether...
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- It does appear to be fixed yes.
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- Maybe vermil could then re-evaluate the status of this request?
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- I will add that yes I am aware, that rocket splash damage doesn't trigger XG. I refer to the actual rocket above.
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- What spurred me on these issues was that I made a couple of mods/reimages of other games in the past, that I didn't q...
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- Then we can at most add a compatibility option for enabling or disabling more accurate hit testing for fast-moving ob...
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- There is now a Feature for HDR: #1635.
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- We should consider the role of High Dynamic Range rendering in the next-gen renderer's lighting system.
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- I've raised the priority as this sounds reproducible.
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- Also, bad Skyjake: Wrong wiki :p
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/52973-doom-wiki/
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- Given that actual 3D models already exist, I don't think this would be really worth the effort.
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- danij wrote:
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- > Hexen "localized [earth]quake" effect
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- Yeah, a custom, deterministic RNG for each generator should be possible and it sounds like the preferred solution here.
2013-10-22
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- I've just tested the Wyvern battle and after killing the Ettin in the middle it dropped down to the floor and stayed ...
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- I suspect that specific behavior (flying down to the floor) is a actually a symptom of a more general broken flier be...
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- I believe the Death Wyvern's flight AI does have a flaw that can cause it to fly into the middle pillar under some ci...
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- I've seen this happen a few times, though I can't be certain whether its not also present in vanilla (needs testing).
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- While playing through Hypostyle's boss battle (flying dragon thing in big lava room), it got stuck in the base of the...
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- Yep, its certainly not specific to our port.
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- This is actually a carry over from Vanilla Doom.
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- The underlying cause of this is that game rules are not handled correctly, neither serialized properly to saved games...
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- Yes, the two are intrinsically related.
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- Does this have anything to do with #1078?
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- My long term plan for the material system is to allow new materials to be defined on the fly and not just during star...
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- danij wrote:
> As materials are animated automatically, without the game knowing about it there is no way for the ga... -
- Yep, that is precisely the cause. Its a flaw in the vanilla algorithm for detecting crossed lines, which, we can't ch...
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- Perhaps occurs when a missile travels so fast that the hit testing range skips over some line?
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- No, presently the DED parser does not support the "mods" directive on MapInfo definitions (it should...).
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- Is there support for, e.g.:...
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- The issue with using a blank model definition, is that it requires the user to have turned models on.
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- Note that in the past mod authors have used a "null model" definition for this purpose.
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- Is the objective to effectively completely replace a sprite with particles? If so, would this only affect sprites or ...
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- I'll need to retest this but OTOMH this was fixed some time ago, along with the related issues of models facing the w...
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- Perhaps a mechanism that interprets Hexen's MAPINFO data into Doomsday MapInfo definition patches which can be applie...
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- I suspect solving this properly would require a system that fully ties together Hexen's MAPINFO and the Map Info defi...
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- This sounds like a caching issue to me.
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13:33 Bug #1631: Doom 2 finale: animation speeds for the Cast
- Is one example of this how you notice the Arachnotron and Spider Mastermind immediately drop down to the side and ont...
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- The first death state of each mobj in the cast call at the end of Doom2 (and Final Doom), appears to be being display...
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- The same mechanism should also integrate Hexen's concept of "hubs" alongside Doom's "episodes". Conceptually the two ...
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- Note that multiplayer map cycling should use the same underlying mechanism as the regular map progression, the differ...
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- See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VHGBxgBitc
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- Please provide more information / links / diagrams / etc. to describe your idea in more detail. As it is, I don't rea...
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- I question whether sharing of a GL-context is possible. Surely, this mandates that both monitors are exactly the same...
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- Proper multi-monitor support implies support for multiple/split game windows. In recent times Doomsday's window manag...
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- We already have issues due to depth buffer precision in large maps, where the sky stops rendering correctly. Before d...
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- The thing to watch out for is loss of Z precision in far distances, though.
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- We do indeed already support using any texture type on any surface. This is implemented opaquely via the Material mec...
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- @danij, do we already support regular textures on planes, and if so, they must tile in a non-64x64 size?
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- For instance, generating a normal map dynamically based on objects contacting the surface: water ripples, etc. Likely...
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- Can you give an example of where such an effect would be used?
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- Particles rendered to textures, for e.g. fire/water effects ala Unreal.
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- The texture manager should already support this, yes.
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- I'm not sure if this actually implemented already?
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- Perhaps the translation could be specified with an inline Doomsday Script?
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- Maybe using some sort of palette translation?
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- No, it has not been merged. However, I would now prefer to re-implement this rather than attempt to merge in that old...
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- Has the aforementioned work actually been merged into the master?
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- I believe what vermil was looking for is a way to apply dynamic lightings to a surface that is already "fully bright"...
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- I can't really grasp what is being suggested here; closing.
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- In my opinion this is something I would expect to see in a mod rather than an explicit feature. Once Doomsday Script ...
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- Might be included in the MP game rule set, however requires some new game logic. Perhaps could be done entirely with ...
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- The more important use case here is the portal effects as this enables all manner of algorithms which are presently b...
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- Drawing a client window or any camera view to a texture, for example for security camera's and portal effects.
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- Open question: Should fog "volumes" be defined using map geometry primitives (i.e., lines and vertexes) or via some o...
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- Area based fog, for instance using XG sectors.
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- We need to carefully consider the logically separation between mobj and particle generator. Particles which affect th...
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- Given that Heretic/Hexen's mechanism for splashes is game-side and involves mobjs and sprites not present in Doom, th...
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- Note that Hexen already implements a basic version of this for use with the "localized [earth]quake" effect. The "pro...
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- I like this idea. It is similar to camera vignette in that it brings some extra realism. However, it should be reserv...
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- Can't we seed the RNG used for particle effect randomization? This would mean that provided the same generators are u...
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- While it is not feasible to record all the individual particles into a demo, the particle generator definition and an...
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- To make this appear more similar to vanilla, one would have to fudge the Z values at the floor height because in the ...
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- Closing this; the matter should be dealt with in feature #1458.
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- Shininess/reflections should definitely be handled with shaders and reflection/cube maps.
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- See: "Map update agents":http://dengine.net/dew/index.php?title=Map_update_agents proposal
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- Presumably needed for creating billboard-like particle models?
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- Closing this as obsolete. All future effort should instead be put into shader-based shiny/reflection mapping.
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- Could just be a vanilla Hexen bug?
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- The interactive console is intended to be a nice and easy way to modify engine configuration and execute certain comm...
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- InFine is a specialized language for specifying UI animation scripts. It also has some features for interactivity, ho...
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- http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_3:_BFG_Edition
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- Sounds like it would make sense to add a new game mode "doom2-bfg" for this purpose.
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- This is definitely in progress, however no one has had the time to actually try to collect 64-bit versions of all the...
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- In Doomsday 2, this sort of things should be possible to do via scripting. Even so, some native functionality may be ...
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- It makes sense that if a weapon name is defined, it should be used in all the places that refer to that weapon.
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- I must say that during my recent playthrough of Hexen, I did not notice this at all and thus I wonder if it is very b...
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- This is because the Attack control is not implemented as an impulse (which does not have a time duration component), ...
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- Doing this would entail slightly rewriting md2tool with dynamic arrays etc.
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- > Question : Is jDoom capable of understanding ACS?
Not presently; see #1252.
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- This should be considered in the larger context of the lighting system for the next-gen renderer (#7).
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- Sounds pretty easy to implement though (provide a patch?).
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- On a general level, this is important for realism of sound effects in a 3D setting. Fortunately, FMOD should provide ...
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- Closing as obsolete.
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- Could simply be a flag in the InFine definition (pause when game paused).
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- It is not ideal that game menus are completely hard-coded into the game plugins. Also, implementing the game menus di...
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- On a general level, it would make a lot of sense to have InFine draw the map title, however this requires serious upg...
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- Thanks to Qt's built-in mechanisms for this, the new UI framework is already going towards this direction. However, t...
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- "Standard definitions" are the ones included in the official Doomsday distribution packages.
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- XG 2.0 needs to include the vanilla types in the standard library of XG line/sector types.
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- I have a feeling XG 2.0 will not retain the chain mechanism as-is, however thanks to scripting there will be proper d...
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- To do this correctly, one would have to save the time elapsed since the start of the music and then after loading, se...
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- Closing this as obsolete. @libdeng2@ already has the ability to treat .zips just like ordinary folders, and resource ...
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- Maybe in Renderer Settings → Developer popup?
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- The Audio Settings dialog should contain a toggle for stopping overlapping sounds from the same origin. In the origin...
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- This can be done with @"sound-overlap-stop 1"@.
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- Closing as obsolete, since one can now use fluidsynth with a suitable soundfont to produce similar end result on Linu...
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- This composite issue has been split into separate ones under Issue #7.
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- Instead of a simple flat surface with a couple of triangles, a surface could be created using a mesh which could be s...
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- Bump/Specular/Enviroment/Reflection/Procedural mapping for models/walls/flats.
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- Support for vertex and fragment shaders for surfaces, objects, and UI.
@libgui@ already implements the basic suppo... -
- We should replicate the original games' depth shading as closely as possible.
In practice, the depth shading gradi... -
- This is partially implemented in the form of @WidgetActions@. In @ConsoleWidget@, we could capture non-text inserting...
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